Nope, you only "stick" the thing in the hole to "recallobrate" the battery. I use the tip of my finger by the by, it isn't resessed too much. Just enough so you don't bump it accidently. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tiffany H. Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: PackMate? I don't believe this is true. You used to lose your files sometimes when resetting, but that was fixed. However, with the braille note, I was told that if your battery goes completely dead you have to stick something in a hole to reset it. I don't know if this is every time, but I'm told it was most regularly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula and James Muysenberg" <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: PackMate? > Yes, Access World have several good articles, comparing braille PDA's. > They not only discussed the various features, but how well those > advertised > features actually work. > > As far as battery life, unless this has changed, you can lose all your > data, if the Pacmate battery goes flat. > > Paula > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Jackson" <dolly1025@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:58 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: PackMate? > > >> If you want other opinions about the various notetakers, I would try the >> Accessworld journal from American Foundation for the Blind. >> >> Sharon >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:23 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: PackMate? >> >> >> > Which option to use always depends on what you want to do. If you >> > don't >> > care about having a braille display I would certainly go with the >> > sub-compact laptop, because they can do more than any notetaker and are >> > cheeper than anything but a Voice Note classic. The number one reason > to >> > consider a nottaker instead of a laptop would be battery life. Any >> > notetaker will get at least 25 hours of battery life. I think I heard > the >> > PackMate gets even more, whereas a laptop will only give you a few >> > ours. >> > The other problem they might cause you is annoyance do to the lack of >> > keys. Screen readers use so many hotkeys that a laptop keyboard just > can't >> > provide them all, and I have found the alternatives used for laptop > layout >> > to be kind of annoying. >> > >> > The PackMate can do a lot of things, but they can have some of the >> > keyboard issues that laptops have. If you get one you should get one > with >> > a qwerty keyboard because the key combinations necessary on the braille >> > model can get ridiculous and hard to remember. You can run some Pocket > PC >> > software, but only if someone has created scripts for it, so don't > expect >> > to use software just out of the box. If you want a very small and > feature >> > packed device with a display it is probably a very good option for >> > you, >> > but be prepared for bugginess because even it's fans say it isn't the > most >> > stable product on the market. >> > >> > If you really want a braille display at the lowest price possible, then > I >> > would check out the Braille Sense notetaker sold by GW-Micro. It is > just >> > under 5,000 dollars instead of over 6,000 for a model with a 32 cell >> > display. It also has a built in DAISY player that can use both text >> > and >> > audio. That and it's price are what might make it a better option than >> > the braille note. It's stability and simplicity may also be of >> > interest >> > to you. >> > >> > The braille note M-Power is much easier to learn and use than the >> > PackMate and it is designed as it is to make it a stable product. At > this >> > point who knows just how stable it is, though. It also has more > features >> > than the Braille Sense. The word processor is far more advanced and it >> > can download and unpack bookshare files. It is supposed to have a >> > DAISY >> > player in the future, but I wasn't given any possible dates for that so >> > who knows when. Reading braille files is quite nice, though. I like >> > the >> > arrangement of the front thumb keys to advance the display. I find it >> > more ergonomic than the other notetakers available. >> > >> > These are just some general things to think about. For actual feature >> > comparisons it would be best to investigate each option thoroughly by >> > looking at their respective web sites. I also know there are a few >> > more >> > things out there, but I don't know much about them if they aren't as >> > strenuously marketed. >> > >> > Sarah Van Oosterwijck >> > Assistive Technology Trainer >> > http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Kaitlyn Hill" <Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:15 PM >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] PackMate? >> > >> > >> >> Hi Barbra and all, >> >> >> >> <<FSEDIT on the PackMate tends to screw up the format and of the > document >> >> and Pocket Word on the PackMate will work only with files 100KB or >> >> smaller.>> >> >> >> >> So are there many PackMate users out there? I have been kind of poking >> >> around trying to decide on a transportable reader for digital files. I >> >> have >> >> not heard a lot of good things about the PackMate for the money. The >> >> Bookcurrier I listened to the voice available and not real excited > about >> >> it. >> >> I am also considering getting a subcompact notebook. I am seeing some > out >> >> there between 2 and 3 lbs. My thought on the notebook would be I could >> >> run >> >> standard software, Word, K1000, etc. >> >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara J >> >> Wagreich >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:34 PM >> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Cc: Barbara J Wagreich >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Guidelines for prep of books for >> >> submission? >> >> >> >> Hi Listers: >> >> >> >> Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it. >> >> >> >> Some additional questions: >> >> >> >> 1) should the print page number be on the same line as the form feed > or >> >> on a separate line? >> >> >> >> 2) What should I do about hyphenated words? This usually happens if > the >> >> last workd on an ink-print page is split between the current page and >> >> the >> >> next page? Will the Bookshare stripper program fix this or should I > fix >> >> the hyphenated words (join them together) before I submit the book? >> >> >> >> 3) The present book I'm doing is in text mode because it's easier for > me >> >> to edit it in text mode. The parahraps are not indented but there is >> >> a >> >> blank line between each paragraph. will the braille translation > program >> >> be able to identify the paragraphs? >> >> >> >> 4) I'm wondering wht formats could be edited on a Braillenote (Keysoft >> >> 6.11) without spoiling the format (meaning when I transfer the edited >> >> files back to the PC, the format wof the book will not be affected). >> >> FSEDIT on the PacMate tends to screw up the format and of the document >> >> and >> >> Pocket Word on the PacMate will work only with files 100KB or smaller. >> >> >> >> 5) Are there any written guidelines? if so, where would I find them? >> >> >> >> Thanks for your feedback on these questions! >> >> >> >> Barbara Wagreich >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> >> Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: > 8/15/2005 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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