[bksvol-discuss] Re: Nuking Fair submissions & txt books.
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 00:06:52 -0800 (PST)
Hmmm. Actions speak louder than words. If they
disappear from the download list, then (1) the list
will become appreciably smaller and (2) people won't
be tempted to spend a lot of time fixing them, because
they won't be there to fix. Such people will then be
forced to spend their time validating other things.
The question of txt submissions and hard page breaks
still exists, though, because there are other books
that are txt. The two I've already validated are in
the collection (Delusions of Grandma and A Woman
Betrayed). I wasn't able to put hard page breaks in. I
just spaced between the pages and put the page numbers
there, and I think, but I'm not sure, that maybe Word
put in its own breaks in the wrong places -- though
that may have been in the Dark Is Rising series or The
Lion,the Witch and the Wardrobe. I think I outwitted
Word by changing the font size.
Cindy
--- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No, but I am ready to nuke them. Eventually the
> submitter will get the
> message.
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> Guido
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> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx.
> Research Division,
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
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> "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> hey Guido, do you want to take the first wack. I
> see there are a Ton of
> books in the text format by a few submitters. And I
> also see that these
> books mostly marked fair are very unpopular as they
> have been submitted,
> but
> nothing has been done to them since.
>
> So... smile. Shall you be the first to start
> resubmitting silloute
> Romances
> and Christian Romances, and Just "romance".
>
> I am just not a romance person so rescanning or at
> least the thought of
> rescanning these things does not appeal to me at
> all.
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> But... smile.
>
> Each is to their own.
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> I will have to admit that your "perfectionism" is
> rubbing off on me.
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> I shall have to try your solution of scanning and
> then later recognizing
> on
> the two dictionaries I have to do.
>
> But really, are you ready to rescan those romances,
> as they are the ones
> that are sitting there.
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> There is also a "fair" book which I suspect wouldn't
> be. It is put up by
> our Kenneth Cross, and I tried to approve it, but
> the site didn't like the
>
> file and all attempts at trying to fix it failed.
>
> Amnesia has page breaks, and rank spelling gave it a
> 99.87 percent
> accuracy
> with a few minor corrections.
>
> Smile.
>
> So some of those fairs are not really fair.
>
> Smile.
>
> Now if I could perfect your 'editing" without
> reading techniques poor
> Bookshare might not know what to do with the storm
> of files I would be
> sending its way. As it stands I read them, and then
> submit them.
>
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> Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> The vision must be followed by the venture. It is
> not enough to
> stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
>
> -- Vance Havner
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Guido Corona" <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:12 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks redux
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> Kelly, if the scanner is the cause of the quality
> problem, a minimal $45
> investment will get them a perfectly good EPSON 1650
> at the EPSON refurb
> store. If someone can't afford that, I can't even
> see how they can't
> possibly afford a monthly Internet connection
> charge.
> A barely higher $124 will get them a modern refurb
> EPSON 3170 in the same
> place. If Kurzweil or Openbook were too costly and
> rehab funding were not
> available, the ABBY Fine Reader Professional 7.0 is
> a perfectly high
> quality solution, as the spottless submission from
> Donna Smith testify.
> As you said, obsolete equipment is not a good
> excuse. A little up-front
> work prior to submission typically ensures that a
> good part of the errors
> have been fixed. A spotcheck can also detect bunch
> of missing words etc.
> . .
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> Now, think about time usage: is it better to work
> 20 hours to salvage a
> single book, or spend the same total amount of time
> and end with 3 to 4
> submissions at the end? Let's not even think about
> the fact that our
> paying subscribers will find the collection grown by
> 4 instead of 1 at the
> end of your effort. Let us think about our work
> benefitting other
> volunteers? Your 20 hours can be spent giving
> credit to 1 sloppy
> submitter, or give credit to 4 other good ones.
> Now, tell me where you
> will work, if the greater good of the volunteer
> community is paramount to
> you.
> And if instead you think about your own credits, as
> a reviewer, your 20
> hours can get you 1 credit, or can get you 4,
> depending on what you work
> on.
>
> So, as you can see, whether you think about our
> customers, the volunteer
> community at large, or your own interest, the
> outcome seems to be the
> same.
>
> Unless we think of these files as orphan, hungry,
> sick children, in need
> of comfort, and nurture. Which I am afraid they are
> not.
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> Guido
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> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx.
> Research Division,
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
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> "Kellie Hartmann" <kellhart@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Oh Guido, great Lord High Rejecter of all, <grin>
> That's fantastic if you have access to a copy of the
> book. Oftentimes the
> volunteer may not, and a certain amount of
> error-correcting really isn't
> that onerous, especially if you're going to read the
> book anyway.
> I do think, though, that it's nice when people who,
> because of older
> equipment, can't get scans that live up to our
> modern high standards go
> through and do some work on their submissions before
> submitting. After
> all,
> there's a lot more credit for submitting than there
> is for validating.
> Kellie
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