[bksvol-discuss] Re: Norton anthology.
- From: "Kaitlyn" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:28:07 -0800
Cindy,
I have encouraged
Ernie to go ahead and work on it. Sometimes those longer books may never be
scanned again. Like our work on the Carnegie book we did:) IT turned out to
be a good read in the end.
Katie Hill
No one is given a dream without also being given the power to make it come
true
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:44 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Norton anthology.
Please don't give up on it, Ernie. Maybe we can work
together. I don't scan big books any more, but I'm
happy to scan missing pages, validate them, and send
them to you. But I don't have the patience to take a
book like the Norton anthology to validate, though I
have done long fiction books.I'll get the right
edition of volume one on Saturday. (The library's
closed on Friday for Cesar Chavez day. The Los Angeles
libraries were closed last Monday for the same reason.
It seems to be a movable feast day--smile).
Volume 2 begins with Tartuffe. On second thought, go
ahead and reject. I tink a play is going to be hard to
validate, given the fact that bookshare seems to erase
tabs. However, I'll pick up volume one in case you
change yor mind
Cindy
--- k4zq <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Cindy,
>
> Well, your point is a good one, but it's like saying
> that one plate in a
> china pattern can stand by itself. It can, but any
> good wife will tell you
> (which mine has) that one plate does not a pattern
> make.
>
> If I'm studying western civ history, and I stop with
> the assassination of
> Julius Caesar, the material I have covered is
> accurate, but you can't really
> call my study complete. For example, I won't know a
> lot about Elvis.
>
> As for the Norton, I'm coming more and more to the
> thought that rejection is
> the way to go with this one. There are 3 reasons:
> there are some missing
> pages already, and I'm on page 23. 2, this is only
> volume I which means
> that somebody's gonna miss McBeth--or think that
> nobody's written anything
> since say
> Chaucer, and 3, since there are practically 2
> editions later, somebody with
> a lot of time and nothing else to do, may decide to
> scan one of 'em.
>
> Actually, I think I'll take the politically correct
> course, and just release
> it back; for as my friend Katie will tell you, gods
> know I wouldn't offend
> anybody for the world. Somebody took a lot of
> effort to scan this thing,
> and if I'm right, she's already frustrated with the
> system. If it was the
> other individual, he's probably a really cool guy,
> and I don't wannaa be
> accused of saying "Do it better, Kid."
>
> For now, gotta go eat, so I'll validate this and
> send it you. "Of all the
> things I've ever lost, I miss my mind the most.
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:18 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision
>
>
> >I do enjoy your posts, Ernie. You have a positive
> > attitude and always lighten what you say with a
> > chuckle-causing line or two.
> >
> > A collection like the Norton Anthology really
> can't
> > said to be only half the book, since volume one is
> > complete in itself and volume two probably has
> later
> > masterpieces of literature and will be complete in
> > itself. Anyway, hopefully someone will scan volume
> > two.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > --- k4zq <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mickey,
> >>
> >> You know that I am pretty new to this whole
> >> Bookshare thing, but let me just
> >> share a bit with you.
> >>
> >> Seems to me that Bookshare is in flux at the
> moment.
> >> However, the staff
> >> positions seem to be getting filled.
> >>
> >> Whenever I look at the news at the top of the
> >> bookshare page, the number of
> >> available books keeps going up. The only
> conclusion
> >> I can reach is that
> >> somebody is doing something.
> >>
> >> Sounds as though you have a lot of books that are
> >> ready for approval, but
> >> it's taking time. Well, in my short time, I've
> >> picked up three books for
> >> validation; 1 wouldn't upload when I finished it,
> 1
> >> had missing copyright
> >> info, and each chapter was in a different file,
> and
> >> the last one has missing
> >> pages. It is also an earlier edition of a book
> >> whose newest edition is
> >> coming out in 2006. It also is only half the
> book
> >> since it is in 2 volumes,
> >> and only vol I is available.
> >>
> >> Frustrating, right. Besides, I have a hell of a
> lot
> >> of things I could be
> >> reading. At this point, I'm waiting for some
> >> comments on the list to see
> >> whether I should proceed with this validation, or
> >> just reject the book and
> >> hope for a later scan.
> >>
> >> fifteen hours a week is a lot of time to be
> putting
> >> into an activity which
> >> seems to be bearing little fruit. Might I
> suggest
> >> that you just back off
> >> considerably, say to 3 hours a week or so, rather
> >> than just going away. It
> >> may seem that your work for Bookshare is not
> >> appreciated, but that's not so
> >> at all.
> >>
> >> Bookshare is primarily our organization, and it
> >> always will be what we make
> >> it. The professional staff can only do so much,
> and
> >> the rest is up to us to
> >> keep it growing. That means that whatever anyone
> >> does as a volunteer is an
> >> important contribution.
> >>
> >> I can't fault you for wanting to get on with
> other
> >> things, and I can't fault
> >> you for your frustration with the number of books
> >> you have ready for
> >> approval. Guess I'm saying, don't go from one
> >> extreme to the other. Get on
> >> with your work as a proof reader and medical
> >> transcriber, but don't give it
> >> up altogether on Bookshare.
> >>
> >> My apologies to the rest of the list, but I think
> >> per haps what I said to
> >> Mickey may be of benefit to others. I know I
> >> thought it was pretty cool.
> >>
> >> "Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss my mind
> >> the most."
> >> Ernie
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:46 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision
> >>
> >>
> >> > HHi, Scott.
> >> >
> >> > I would bet, first of all, that I have 15 books
> in
> >> the admin queue. I've
> >> > done several books, which were already in the
> >> admin queue, so they didn't
> >> > need two copies.
> >> >
> >> > I believe in Bookshare, would like to work for
> it,
> >> but can't spend 10 or
> >> > 15 hours on a book, to find that it got
> approved
> >> the day before I finished
> >> > it. That tends to be very discouraging.
> >> >
> >> > I am a proofreader by profession, and keep busy
> >> with that and my course.
> >> > Maybe it's time to just work on that.
> >> >
> >> > I'll keep looking to see if anything I've done
> >> needs extra work.
> >> >
> >> > I hope to be back soon.
> >> >
> >> > Mickey
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Scott Blanks" <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:39 PM
> >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I'm curious to know how the validations were a
> >> waste of your time? I'm
> >> >> asking mostly because I didn't understand your
> >> explanation. What has
> >> >> disappointed you?
> >> >>
> >> >> Scott
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:32 AM
> >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Sad decision
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi, Group.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is my third year of volunteering with
> >> Bookshare. I think it's a
> >> >>> great source of wonderful reading material of
> >> all types.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> However, I know that the Palo Alto center is
> >> understaffed, that they're
> >> >>> behind. But in the past month I've validated
> or
> >> nearly validated books
> >> >>> that were in the administrative queue, which
> >> ended up being a total
> >> >>> waste of my time. I read a book thoroughly,
> >> making corrections when I
> >> >>> can as well as spellchecking.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's impossible to know what is being done,
> or
> >> what has been done--both
> >> >>> for the scanner and the validator.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm taking a course in medical transcribing,
> >> plus working, and can't
> >> >>> afford to spin my wheels.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So, for now, I'll stop volunteering. I'll
> keep
> >> abreast of things, in
> >> >>> case things get better, but I'm returning the
> >> books I've taken to
> >> >>> validate.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's been good working with you all. Thanks.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Mickey
> >> >>>
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