[bksvol-discuss] Re: Hopefully my last post on volunteers VS pq

  • From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:54:28 -0500

I'm happy to shift my efforts. I just need some guidance on which books
bookshare sees as those volunteers should do. 

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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Courtney Stover
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:22 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hopefully my last post on volunteers VS pq

Hi All:

I can understand the frustration of having your books replaced by PQ books;
the first series I ever scanned has just been replaced.
However, I think that in our anger, we're sometimes missing the bigger
picture.  There've been over nine thousand books added to the collection in
a month!  And all of the PQ books I've downloaded, aside from missing page
breaks, have been practically flawless.  It's amazing to realize that large
numbers of books will continue to flow in to the collection via outsourcers
and publishers as well as volunteers.  We're gaining so much so quickly it
makes my head spin.
Realistically, there's no way volunteers could add books alone with the
speed/frequency they're being added now.  And that in no way is meant to
demean volunteers; it's merely a statement of fact.

However, while there're newer books coming in at a dizzying speed, Roger's
right; there're so many older/special interest books volunteers can provide;
that's where I'll be shifting my efforts, and I hope others will, too.

Just my two cents,
Courtney

On 7/27/10, Denise Thompson <deniset@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy B.
> Sent:  07/26/2010, 9:42  PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hopefully my last post on volunteers VS 
> pq i would have to agree. I have no interest in scanning for the sake 
> of it. If bookshare has grown beyond us isn't that really the way it 
> should be? After all we want the time to come when all publishers will 
> automatically submit their books for electronic conversion. It's 
> difficult when in a way we're now getting what we've hoped for and 
> what many of us have fought for, but we may have to celebrate our 
> accomplishments, keep fine tuning and take up another cause of our choice.
Downinloading and listening to books as we go.
> How many people get to say they worked themselves out of a job in 
> their lifetime.
> Denise
>
>
> Our job shouldn't be to find the most funky out of date and most left 
> behind books possible. It should be to find a book we think someone 
> else would want to read and send it along. The first one just makes 
> the volunteer network sound like it is desperately trying to hang on 
> until it gets snuffed out somehow. I'm sure that's not what we are here
for.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Loran 
> Bailey
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:39 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hopefully my last post on volunteers VS 
> pq
>
> As I have mentioned before, what with outsourcers and publisher 
> submissions the volunteer contributed books in the collection is now a 
> small minority and shrinking. That does not mean, though, that there 
> is no role for volunteers at all anymore. It is just necessary to 
> shift niches. That is, again, long out of print books, small presses, 
> vanity presses and the most obscure books that you can find.
>
>
> _     _      _
>
> "Socialism can be built only by free men and women working together to 
> lay the foundations for a new society and transforming themselves in 
> the process." - Ernesto "Che" Guevara
>
>
> The Militant:
>  http://www.themilitant.com
> Pathfinder Press:
>  http://www.pathfinderpress.com
> Granma International:
>   http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:16 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Hopefully my last post on volunteers VS pq
>
>
>> If bookshare values the scanning and proofing of books by volunteers.
>> Tell
>> us how?  In what way?  If we are to scan and proof books for the 
>> collection, which books?  Someone sends me a box of books to add to 
>> the collection but
>
>> I
>> am decidedly NOT going to scan them only to find that my scanning  
>> and possibly the proofing of my wife who spends sometimes days on a 
>> book reading it from cover to cover will be dumped in the bit bucket 
>> because of a PQ submission which is often inferior to our efforts.  
>> I'm sorry, but the answers provided by bookshare staff concerning 
>> this issue have not been satisfactory.  The solution we are being 
>> offered is, "well, go ahead and
>> scan and proof away and good luck."   As you can tell, I am decidedly not
>> happy.
>>
>>
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