I'm with you Lisa. My comment about calling it censorship, was in regard to BS volunteers labeling books Adult Content that a teenage sighted person could get at a bookstore. Censorship wasn't the correct word. And I've been with BS submitting since the second month it was online, so 5 years now? And seen so many positive changes, things like the original gay and lesbian books, many that had nothing offensive except that they were about gays and lesbians (offensive to some people) were marked adult content while books I felt were offensive (such as church books of how to overcome homosexuality, or very right wing politics) were available to all. I know all this discussion is good, will eventually lead to positive changes, and I'm all for it! We are a many perspectived community, just the like print-abled community. I enjoy the dialogue and look forward to the time our available books are on an even par to those who don't have print disabilities. I'm tired..... Liz in Portland Liz Halperin Portland, OR lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lisa Belville Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:59 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Censorship was heaven help me, folks! Hi, Liz. I don't think this issue of adult books not being visible to non-logged in visitors is so much a censorship issue as it is an unintentional oversight. If someone who is under eighteen finds an adult rated book, they do have the ability to have their parent or guardian modify their subscription. Whether or not someone allows their child to access material they consider inappropriate isn't the concern of Bookshare, just as it isn't the concern of a regular library. I think it's safe to say that most of us, regardless of our political affiliation, agree that the point of a venture like Bookshare is to get the information out to those who have traditionally had a hard time learning about it and obtaining it. Not giving anyone and everyone the opportunity to see what Bookshare has to offer would do the cause a huge disservice, IMO. I've been volunteering with BS for nearly four years, and I've noticed that most of the changes and upgrades to the web site have come about as a direct result of the volunteers expressing their opinions and offering suggestions. It might take them a while, but I'm confident that the powers that be will read these messages and take our concerns into consideration when designing future site upgrades. I can't promise that the change will happen over night, because it probably won't. LOL But it will happen eventually if enough of us express our concerns. Lisa Original Message ----- From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] heaven help me, folks! >I have two weeks to dog school, multiple projects to do, no new scanning >and > keep *almost* signing off this list until I return. Then a topic comes up > that I want to follow. Grr. You're all too interesting! I delete many > topics > but this one about censorship is keeping me here for now. > liz > > Liz Halperin > Portland, OR > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.