So now you know that I'm an old Arrow Smith fan. <grin> Hi all. I've been out of the loop for a while and my good intentions to get back in a few weeks ago didn't happen. I've kept up with a lot of the messages on this list and see that we're back to the quality versus quantity and all the nuances in between discussion again. <grin> We're such an opinionated group of volunteers! As the whole spectrum of opinion has already been displayed, I won't add mine, but I do have a suggestion...a reminder really...for validators. When you download a book for validation, regardless of genre or submitter, and the text is merged, undecipherable for paragraph or page at a time, and this occurs repeatedly throughout the book, then just reject it. If you're concerned about depriving the collection of this selection of books, then put the title/author on Rui's rejected book list and those of us who are addicted to scanning will put in a better quality version. Eventually, as a book submitter gets multiple rejection notices, s/he will quit submitting poor quality books. Anyone who wants to know how to improve their scan can get more tutoring than they ever wanted from this very list. The process currently in place really does work, but only if we use it. If we keep agonizing over rejecting poor quality books either because we hate to not see that collection number grow or because we're afraid of offending the scanner, then we're not using our volunteer time wisely. I know that there are validators with infinite patients out there willing to rewrite a book to make it readable, but let's use that effort on material that truly won't scan well no matter what we do...things like cookbooks, mathematical and/or science text, books with illustrations/charts, etc. A 250 page paperback of straightforward, easy-to-read text is a waste of such valuable effort when it can just be rescanned in less than an hour and then validated in 20 minutes. Someone brought up a good point about not wanting to discourage new submitters. I think that perhaps the guidance to new submitters should indicate that a few rejections in the beginning should be expected, and that they can get information from other volunteers via this list about how to scan in the future to avoid rejections. We all get books rejected sooner or later, and I know that I always look for the reason why and then fix it whether it is my problem or some other glitch that kicked it out. Again, it's how the process is intended to work. Now, after all that, here's what I really intended to write about. <smile> Since it has been several months since I interrupted my scan, pre-validate, submit cycle, I find myself looking at a list of books on my computer without any recollection of whether I ever submitted them. I will do my best to check all the available lists as well as the collection itself, but if any of you notice a submission that is already in the process, just reject it. In the meantime, here is my list of books already scanned, that I will clean up and submit within the next couple of weeks. If you recognize any of these from my list, then drop me a note and you'll save us all a lot of trouble. <smile> The Art of Fiction by John Gardner The Avitar by Jacqueline Cary (this is a replacement for the one in the collection) Chakra Meditation by Layne Redmond Chained by Lauren Henderson My Lurid Past by Lauren Henderson (These last two are very fun reads if you're not put off by strong language and otherwise adult material...albeit presented in a very fun way) City by Allesandro Barricco Erogenous Zones by Lucretia Stewart The Goddess Path by Patricia Monaghan Liquor by Poppy Z. Brite (from my daughter's collection, <smile>) Little Altars Everywhere by Rebecca Welles Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood by Rebecca Welles (One or maybe both of these are replacements) Circle at Center by Douglas Niles Seeking Enlightenment Hat by Hat by Nevada Barr The Wellness Tree by Justin O'Brien When Drummers Were Women by Layne Redmond Finally, I have a pile of books awaiting the initial scan, but I can't remember what they are and it's too overwhelming to think about them at the moment. <smile> However, I have requested John Grisham's Skipping Christmas from the library and will submit it promptly if no one else does it first. Peace and Hope, Donna