On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:37 AM Anthony Cesaroni <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Ok Peter, I agree, no politics here. But one last thing if I may. Can you
honestly say that Hassan Rouhani *hasn't* declared war on anybody? That
would be contrary to his entire narrative and philosophy. Just say'n.
As far as I can tell, 22 CFR 120-130 says PROPEP source code is still
export controlled unless State specifically says it isn’t. That's the way
the ITAR is written. One big catch all. Unless State specifically says
something is exempt, then it's not and if you try to fight them on that
point, you'll lose. Mr. Lee is a good example. Most ITAR staffers I've met
don't even know or understand the ITAR, particularly how it's set up to
work with Canada and the exemptions as well as the procedure. They been
trained to just say no to everything and you'll never get into trouble. The
whole thing is a joke and has more to do with protectionism than security
in the vast majority of cases. The biggest proponents of the ITAR during
its inception were the trade unions next to State, not the military. The
latter has much more effective methods of regulation and technology
control. When the ITAR was finally deployed, it looked nothing like what
the original authors intended.
There's a copy of it at the front desk in my lobby and one in my
briefcase. You can pull it out a prove an ITAR, Norman Knowitall wrong
right to his face with it and he'll still say no.
You got me started. 😊
Anthony J. Cesaroni
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From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Peter Fairbrother
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:46 AM
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Subject: [AR] Re: Bagdad airport region ka-boom
On 04/01/2020 00:01, Anthony Cesaroni wrote:
Payback platform. 😊
I know nothing about the people who were killed, they were probably very
bad guys - but killing somebody without a declaration of war is murder.
In this case it seems like particularly irresponsible murder. And an act
of war.
But maybe someday the Iranians, or whoever, will field a like capability
and kill McConville, or Trump.
Heck, if Trump can kill whoever he likes without legal justification then
he might just kill Nancy Pelosi.
Enough killing. Enough politics for this list.
Is PROPEP still export-controlled?
Peter Fairbrother
