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[shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought

  • From: "Mark Belles" <mrbelles@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:45:37 -0500
lol, ya i hear the rewrite thing, i am just finishing my second major release 
of my shell. so that is understandable. The COM stuff is definitely a pain in 
my eyes. some is necessary like you say, but i'd rather have pure callbacks or 
something, without the com based interfaces. i dunno, some days i love it, and 
others i hate it. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brandon Sneed 
  To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:33 PM
  Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought


  You're talking to a bunch of people who have worked on a shell that's been 
practically rewritten 10 times. ;)  hehe.

  couldn't help it.

  anyway.. while i do agree 100% with what everyone's been talking about via a 
common core.., i don't think a 90% COM solution (ie: what i think raptor to be) 
is the answer..  at the same time, i do realize that for some things its a 
necessary evil.  Its overly complex, and writing all the stuff on your own at 
this point seems to be a quicker shot to point B than implementing raptor.  :/

  brandon
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Donelle Sanders 
    To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:54 AM
    Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought



    I don't think raptor is a solution, Im using raptor because I liked the 
idea and I want to continue on with it. Yes rewrites would have to be made to 
support this idea but with any change like this, rewrites are going to happen 
regardless. I don't expect people to jump on the bandwagon with me Im just 
doing what I love to do and those that are interested can follow. While we are 
on the subject I invented a sort of "patch" for certain shells to interact with 
raptor with having to change "much" of there current implementations. This 
service is I call "Connectors" are more less proxies or a gateway that knows 
how to talk to say "Shell A" and raptor. I thought is would be facinating to 
see "Shell A" get information seemlessly as if it implemented the require 
interfaces for raptor. It was just an experiment that I was trying out for 
geoshell r4.9 , I had gotten the idea from ximian gnome's connector for ms 
exchange server. But anyhoo, I do appr eciate your opinion ;-) . (I'm glad 
somebody is thinking in the same direction as I), and I know this is hobby for 
most people but to me doing this is like the greatest gift God has given me and 
thats to code.


    -Matrice(64)

    >From: Kevin Schaffer 
    >Reply-To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    >To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    >Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought 
    >Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:33:38 -0400 
    > 
    >I agree completely. It is my hope that this mailing list will help 
    >to bring 
    >about better cooperation between shell developers and better 
    >integration 
    >between shells. Although you didn't mention it specifically, based 
    >on your 
    >last post I assume your solution would be Raptor, or something 
    >similar; 
    >however, Raptor is not the solution. Raptor went about it the wrong 
    >way. 
    >Shells have to be completely redesigned to work with Raptor and that 
    >is 
    >why it failed. I feel the best way to achieve better shell unity is 
    >to do it 
    >incrementally and in a way that won't require major rewrites of 
    >existing 
    >code. 
    > 
    >-- 
    >Kevin Schaffer 
    > 
    > 
    > 
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