[shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought
From: "Dominik Pich" <Daij-Djan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:07:17 +0200
Well, I like COM :P just to add my opinion to this discussion.
About raptor: it is DEAD, PLEASE L.ET I R.I.P. ;)
The geoshell and the ls devteam made one attempt to a) write raptor and
b) port their shells. They failed a) because raptor is HEAVY, which they
didn't like and b) because the rest of the world thought nobody would
need raptor anyways.
Daij-Djan > Dominik
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From: shell-coding-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:shell-coding-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Belles
Sent: Donnerstag, 29. August 2002 19:46
To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought
lol, ya i hear the rewrite thing, i am just finishing my second major
release of my shell. so that is understandable. The COM stuff is
definitely a pain in my eyes. some is necessary like you say, but i'd
rather have pure callbacks or something, without the com based
interfaces. i dunno, some days i love it, and others i hate it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Sneed <mailto:bsneed@xxxxxxxxx>
To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:33 PM
Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought
You're talking to a bunch of people who have worked on a shell that's
been practically rewritten 10 times. ;) hehe.
couldn't help it.
anyway.. while i do agree 100% with what everyone's been talking about
via a common core.., i don't think a 90% COM solution (ie: what i think
raptor to be) is the answer.. at the same time, i do realize that for
some things its a necessary evil. Its overly complex, and writing all
the stuff on your own at this point seems to be a quicker shot to point
B than implementing raptor. :/
brandon
----- Original Message -----
From: Donelle Sanders <mailto:donelle_sanders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:54 AM
Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought
I don't think raptor is a solution, Im using raptor because I liked the
idea and I want to continue on with it. Yes rewrites would have to be
made to support this idea but with any change like this, rewrites are
going to happen regardless. I don't expect people to jump on the
bandwagon with me Im just doing what I love to do and those that are
interested can follow. While we are on the subject I invented a sort of
"patch" for certain shells to interact with raptor with having to change
"much" of there current implementations. This service is I call
"Connectors" are more less proxies or a gateway that knows how to talk
to say "Shell A" and raptor. I thought is would be facinating to see
"Shell A" get information seemlessly as if it implemented the require
interfaces for raptor. It was just an experiment that I was trying out
for geoshell r4.9 , I had gotten the idea from ximian gnome's connector
for ms exchange server. But anyhoo, I do appr eciate your opinion ;-) .
(I'm glad somebody is thinking in the same direction as I), and I know
this is hobby for most people but to me doing this is like the greatest
gift God has given me and thats to code.
-Matrice(64)
>From: Kevin Schaffer
>Reply-To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought
>Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:33:38 -0400
>
>I agree completely. It is my hope that this mailing list will help
>to bring
>about better cooperation between shell developers and better
>integration
>between shells. Although you didn't mention it specifically, based
>on your
>last post I assume your solution would be Raptor, or something
>similar;
>however, Raptor is not the solution. Raptor went about it the wrong
>way.
>Shells have to be completely redesigned to work with Raptor and that
>is
>why it failed. I feel the best way to achieve better shell unity is
>to do it
>incrementally and in a way that won't require major rewrites of
>existing
>code.
>
>--
>Kevin Schaffer
>
>
>
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